The Fleming-Flemming DNA Projects - Y DNA & MtDNA
The Fleming-Flemming DNA Projects are hoping to help establish kinship within the Fleming Clan. Genetic Genealogy may help family historians find unknown kin, give clues to origins, confirm your family connections and for some raise more questions about your family and /or reveal skeletons in the closet.
The offical site for our Fleming Project will be hosted at www.dna.ancestry.com by the end of the year (2007) and in the meantime participants of the old Relative Genetics project are transferring to the new site above. If you already have your DNA Signature (results) from another company you can also upload yours to the above site to search for matches.
We are looking for FLEMING sponsors to help fund our project or sponsor those who cannot pay for themselves. This could be either a Fleming Business or a private donation from an individual or family. Please feel free to contact me direct by email if you are able to sponsor someone.
For those who have funds Dna Ancestry are now offering the choice of 33 or 43 marker Y tests and mtDNA tests. See web site for costs. www.dna.ancestry.com
This promotional site is created in honor of Mrs Stricklin who went home to glory a few years ago - without her generosity this project would not have been able to go ahead so quickly and a special thanks as well to Dr John Fleming for his generosity to our project.
Thanks "Mum" Stricklin (nee Fleming) for being a blessing to so many in this project. We look forward to family reunions in glory. Thanks too to her son Robert C. Stricklin who is the Co-Ordinator of the project and has taken an avid interest in the FLEMING DNA PROJECT.
If you are interested in participating in our FLEMING-FLEMMING DNA PROJECT and have further queries please email me. (all variants of the Fleming surname are welcome to particpate). We now also have an mtDNA Project happening for females.
j flemming @ i primus . com . au (no Spaces)
For those who have their DNA Results from Relative Genetics or another lab you may visit the following sites, submit your marker/alle scores to search for matches. These are world wide data bases with many surnames. www.ysearch.org and www.ybase.org Read the directions - check the date you had your samples taken to see if you need to adjust your markers before submitting. Of the two sites I have found the ybase to be the easier to understand.
If you have your DNA results from another company ie. FTDNA, SMGF, Oxford etc you can still join our RG Fleming DNA Project and upload your DNA signature to compare with other participants www.dna.ancestry.com
Again if you are a female and interested in our project we recommend that you find a biological Fleming male relative to participate and also take part in our newly established mtDNA project at RG.
SMGF are also still offering free DNA tests (Note: you do not get any results sent back) and they are eventually posted to the SMGF web site www.smgf.org but it is a long long wait for results to show up. (8 - 12 months if not more)
WHY JOIN OUR DNA PROJECT......A FLEMING DNA STORY
Mr. Fleming has been studying his family's ancestry for several years and has started a "Fleming " family study based in Australia. He is interested in confirming that his family line is linked to a "Fleming" line in Queensland. Although there are rumours that the two lines are related, Mr. Fleming does not have the paperwork to prove this link. Furthermore, Mr. Fleming has heard about the powerful capabilities of DNA testing for finding and linking family lines and would like to see if his line is linked to any other Fleming lines worldwide.
Mr. Fleming had previously chosen to test just 12 markers. After testing, he enters the 12 markers into a public database and finds out that he is a perfect match to the Fleming line in Queensland. However, he also finds that he has a perfect match to over 200 individuals in the database, and over half of them do not even share his surname. How is this possible? Does it mean that he is related to everyone who matches him at the 12 markers? No, this simply means that data from only 12 markers are not powerful enough to distinguish Mr. Fleming from other family lines.
To clarify this, Mr. Fleming decides to upgrade his test to 26 markers. He enters the results of his 26 markers into the database and this time narrows down the number of matches, in fact, now, only 18 people match him perfectly at his 26 markers, including the Fleming line in Queensland. Surprisingly, many of the individuals who used to match perfectly at 12 locations only match at 14 or less out of the 26 locations tested, confirming that there is no familial link with most of the 200 individuals identified in the 12 marker test (more than 3 mismatches indicates that two family lines are not closely related).
To further clarify the findings, Mr. Fleming decides to upgrade to a 43 marker test. This time, he finds out that he is a perfect match at all 43 markers to only two lines, a Fleming line in England, and a Fleming line in the United States. After contacting the two lines and comparing paperwork and stories, Mr. Fleming was able to confirm that his line was indeed definitely linked to both lines and he is now able to add both new lines to his family tree!
Surprisingly, Mr. Fleming was also able to find out that only 42 out of the 43 markers matched with the Fleming line in Queensland. This confirms that although the Fleming line in Queensland is related to his line, they are more distantly related.
Mr. Fleming also discovered that he had a close match to 4 other Fleming lines (42 out of the 43 matched) and he is now pursuing the possibility that the 4 other lines are also distantly related to him (MRCA analysis dictates that 1 mutation occurs every 500 generations, and thus we would detect a mutation every 12 generations with the 43/44 marker test).
Mr. Fleming is now trying to recruit more Fleming males from throughout Europe to try to reconstruct and relink his family line.
Conclusions: As you can see, the 12 marker test was simply not powerful and discriminating enough for Mr. Fleming to pinpoint his family lines. After upgrading to the 26 marker test, Mr. Fleming was able to obtain more useful information and was able to eliminate false matches generated by the less powerful 12 marker test. However, the 43 marker test was able to tell him the most useful information, and was able to pinpoint the people that he is looking for and was furthermore able to accurately answer his questions about his relationship to the Fleming line in Queensland. Mr. Fleming is now able to carry on his research, and as more and more people globally are tested and are added to the database, Mr. Fleming will be able to reconstruct his family line in great detail and re-unite with Fleming's worldwide who are descendents of his family line.
