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feline leukemia in kittens | | Feline Leukemia is caused by a virus.. it is not the same as leukemia in humans. It reacts more like Aids in humans to cats.. the virus is transmitted by salvia, bite wounds, sexual contact, and of course, mother to child... that is why there has been a large increase.. probably because the cats are not vaccinated.. and tested..
Even the vaccine is only 89% effective, so vaccinating a cat DOES NOT guarantee a cat will not come down with it..
Michelle LVT | | | I would wonder about that The chemical that could cause leukemia that I'm talking about (CLL, AML even lymphomas) often is said that people have a virus ... but in this case, that would be a misdiagnosis
NOT a virus
Though often diagnosed as such
I should get more info to see exactly what these kittens have
Some hepatitis is autoimmune and not diagnosed that way
Liver shuts down ... then other organs ... after 'flu-like' symptoms as described for 3 soldiers that died recently
All part of the picture of what this chemical has been found to do
In their case? I strongly suspect it, but don't have enough info.
I wish someone would look into it though | | cats with FeLV do not get hepatitis of any sort... what usually kills them is either their bone marrow shuts down, or they get a infection that they cannot fight off..
I am not sure why you think that FeLV is not caused by a virus.. yes, it is.. in order to get a positive results, they test to see if there are antibodies for FeLV in the blood.. that is how you get a results.. if it is neg.. it is not FeLV.. maybe you are thinking of another cat illness.. cats can and do get auto immune disorders.. I had 2 cats at different times die of this..
And cats are very susceptible to chemicals (cat's livers are not as efficient as ours).. but FeLV (the infection) has nothing to do with this.. | | | You don't think a cat can get leukemia? I mostly know about people, not cats; but I would suspect that a cat could get leukemia.
What do they call it when the bone marrow shuts down?
The bone marrow is the problem first anyway, as that is where the red blood cells are made; and all immune cells
You must have a good vet to diagnose autoimmune disorders | | | FeLV in cats | The disease in cats is called aplastic anemia.. not leukemia..
And it isn't hard to get that an animal has a autoimmune disorder.. there is a rise in cells called esinophils, which are a form of white blood cells.. these cells rise in autoimmune disorders and also allergic disorders..
My vet is special.. but not due to that.. any good vet should be able to pick up a probable cause of an autoimmune disorder or an allergy..
but this has nothing to do with Feline Leukemia.. this is a disease caused by a virus that attacks the immune system.. just like Aids in humans.. (and yes, cats also have Aids.. which is similar, but not as infectious).
By the way.. I know all this as I am a Vet Tech and have been for over 10 years..
Michelle LVT | | | OK - how about autoimmune hemolytic anemia OK, Now we are getting somewhere
I understand aplastic anemia as I live in a town where people are concerned about benzene, the hazardous chemical in fresh crude oil. Benzene exposure will cause aplastic anemia in which the body is inhibited from making red, white, and platelet blood cells.
The chemical exposure I am concerned with is unrecognized, and it often starts with 'flu-like' symptoms that the doctor says, "Oh, you have a virus"
Such as this young woman was told
No, you have a chemical poisoning by a chemical which causes the CFS, or 'gulf war syndrome' odd assortment of symptoms.
This chemical causes autoimmune hemolytic anemia and I suspect it for many, many cancers and birth defects. It causes a lot of harm and I suspect this has been the case since the 1930s to the present day. I suspect these 3 soldiers ran into it somewhere
I suspect it harmed more Vietnam vets than dioxin did
In an acute exposure, you would notice the 'retic' rate go high and notice blood in urine. This is the fatigue that is going on
So, I am concerned about a chemical exposure that causes the immune system to become instantly autoimmune and first and foremost and continuously prematurely destroy the red blood cells
and then on to lots of other things.
Any suggestions on how to stop the immune system from being autoimmune? | | | Autoimmune disorders ok.. glad we figured it out.. the only thing that works for autoimmune disorders is steriods, at least in animals.. there are other weird things that may work.. but they dont know why.. (too early to remember what they are.. I do remember Gold Salts).. but large doses of steriods end up damaging the body.. and for cats, they end up with diabetes (sometimes permanently) and because of the steriods, cannot fight infection (so cats with FeLV and Feline Aids cannot get steriods)...
One cat of mine became autoimmune when exposed to flea products in conjunction with cleaning products (the was before I had any idea that this could happen)...
Another has an autoimmune problem now, but it seems to be under control right now..
And yes, chemical exposure can and does cause cancer both in pets and humans. I know for a fact... secondary exposure to smoking can cause lung cancer in dogs.
Michelle LVT | | | Cleaning products - quite harmful | autoimmune when exposed to flea products in conjunction with cleaning products | Yes, the cleaning products for sure; I don't know what flea products have in them, but it might be worth figuring out. It might just be that the aerosol products may also contain 2-butoxyethanol, as it could be the propellant in sprays (& the worst exposure is the vapors in one's eyes)
People end up with an overactive immune system that seems to be OK at recognizing virus and flu ailments, but not bacteria. So they are open to infection, because their immune system is attacking them.
I'm not a medical person, but I suspect there is research in immunology on how to eat right and take certain amino acids, Vit C, A, E and the B complex vitamins. Probably something simple ... that could help 'turn the tide' here
Diabetes, from what I've observed, is often a clue that something has gone wrong. But I suspect that it is a side effect of this chemical's harm either from direct exposure, or as a late appearing birth defect: adult onset Type 2 diabetes also has an autoimmune component, per lef.org info I found.
Any way, long story short I have spent so much time working on this in the past 3 years, that I have come to 'recognize' the big picture of what this chemical does, not only to people, but to our pets, as well. | | | 3-31-05 |
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