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Gulf War Vets

Feel CFIDS is one of their main health issues

Even recently suspecting vision problems are a part of that

   these concerns 
   Vision  

It could be from multiple sources of Exposures to 2-butoxyethanol

Why Can't the USA Find the Real Cause of 'gulf war syndrome?'  *

What is the chemical/s in Rocket Propellants?

ethylene oxide ? 

" ... in most aerosol propellants"

Compiled by Julia Kendall who died from chemical poisoning (1935 - 1997)

On one of her links, I find the following information:

aerosols


"2-Butoxy-1-Ethanol or butyl cellosolve are in most aerosol propellants."


Now, the latter is the name Dow Chemical uses for 2-butoxyethanol.

They are synonyms

Ah ha! And so is 2-butoxy-1-ethanol

What is IRFNA ?   (what is THIS rocket Propellant?)

  Not a good idea to 'blow up' munitions near any troops

EOD................................explosive ordnance disposal

 Scuds and the Patriot Missile

This 'Gulf War Syndrome' Vet was just 2 blocks away once

Maggie, what you said is close,

"What I suspect for some of the cancers that those who live in that land are finding, is that these missiles would have ethylene oxide (a rocket propellant)"

consider the following definition of a scud missile found at http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/irfna/irfna_taba.htm Read This

Scud missile
A mobile, Russian-made, tactical ballistic surface-to-surface missile.[173] The Iraqi military used the Scud extensively in the Iran-Iraq War and the Gulf War. The Scud is fueled by inhibited red fuming nitric acid and kerosene

further searches reveled the following about red fuming nitric acid Read This

Inhibited red fuming nitric acid (IRFNA), known as type IIIB fuming nitric acid in the US, is used as a liquid propellant rocket engine oxidizer. It is light-orange to orange-red in color, clear, strongly fuming, and evolves toxic nitric acid vapor and yellow-red vapors of nitrogen oxides. Fuming nitric acids are unstable releasing nitrogen dioxide, nitric oxide, and nitric acid mist into the atmosphere. Fuming nitric acids are highly corrosive oxidizing agents and will vigorously attack most metals. They also react with many organic materials resulting in spontaneous combustion.

so Maggie you see why I think you are in left field on this one no ethylene oxide in the fuel for scuds missiles. Yikes but you are right on the possible health effects related to scud missile hits and near misses related to the possible weapons load in the war head. So most likely no 2-butoxyethanol was used in scud missile fuel. Don't know

in unrelated triva my unit was only a couple blocks away from the site in Daharan where the missile hit the barracks.

 

Scud missile

A mobile, Russian-made, tactical ballistic surface-to-surface missile.[173] The Iraqi military used the Scud extensively in the Iran-Iraq War and the Gulf War. The Scud is fueled by inhibited red fuming nitric acid and kerosene (or unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine).[174]

Silkworm missile

An anti-ship, Chinese-made, surface-to-surface missile that uses inhibited red fuming nitric acid as its propellant oxidizer.[175]

Unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH)

A volatile, colorless liquid with an ammonia-like odor.Hazards and symptoms of exposure to UDMH are similar to those of fuming nitric acid, and include eye and skin irritation, choking, chest pain, shortness of breath (dyspnea), lethargy, nausea, low oxygen levels in the blood (anoxia), convulsions, and liver injury. [176] Used as a component of rocket propellant.[177]

Propellant

The combination of rocket oxidizer and fuel is called propellant.[169] When combined under controlled conditions, a fuel such as kerosene or unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) and IRFNA will combust and burn to create the heat and thrust needed to "propel" or launch a rocket or missile. Missile propellants can be liquid or solid. The Scud, for example, is a liquid propellant missile, while the US Patriot uses a solid propellant.

Kyle Missile

A Russian-made, anti-radar, air-to-surface missile which used IRFNA as its propellant oxidizer.[152]

What Propellants in the Patriot Missile?
Pulmonary edema

Fluid build-up in the lungs, which causes lack of oxygen; also known as "dry land drowning."[170]

http://home.gci.net/~blessing/pages/als.htm

Anthrax vaccine blamed for illness, but ...

There's another possibility

That everyone seems to be overlooking .... for ....

"Auto-immune diseases such as ALS, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis are chronic and increasingly debilitating. They occur when the body can't distinguish between itself and foreign substances it's supposed to attack."

This is very true; and I believe the main harm to the gulf war vets was to the immune system. Almost everything they have could be traced back to the harm to the immune system: having an autoimmune functioning immune system

HOWEVER, there is another neurotoxin 'on the list' that could causes these and all the other symptoms, too

Pick one of the first 2 links on this web page to see the list of solvents and pesticides the troops then were exposed to. In fact the chemical I've been sharing about is not only a solvent, it is by some odd definition a pesticide AND a neurotoxin that does the assortment of nervous system damage that everyone is focusing on.

AND it causes CFS, CFIDS and THIS FATIGUE which is autoimmune red blood cell damage. That is the fatigue that has been fooling the doctors for over half a century.

So someone answer this question, "What was different about the 1990 gulf war compared to all other prior wars the US was involved in? .... & I believe I can tell you not only the most probable chemical of harm, but also the SOURCE

What would someone answer that was a kid back then?  Best that a gulf war vet not answer the question because they would have too many answers; and the answer is not a difficult one.

Anyone who listened to the news at all back then could answer this question

1-31-05 repost 11-1-06

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